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Stocks vs Options vs Forex vs Futures to develop an algo

Guys, this post is kinda long, so if you want to jump to my question just skip the first 5 paragraphs.
I have been trying to develop algos to make money on the stock market. Some have shown huge gains, only to be f'd by the bid ask spread afterwards.
In addition, it is complicated to obtain bid ask data for free. What I did was to use present values of the bid ask (from yfinance) and assume they were always like that. Additionally, I had to use only daily prices (open, close, low, high) and assume I would make an action exactly at open or close.
I had some algos who worked OK under these simplifications. But I don't trust them. For instance, at open the bid ask spread is higher. Also, the assumption of the constant bid ask spread may be very wrong.
I have thought about buying historical data. I found historical data of the Russell 3000, by 30 mins, with the bid ask, since 2009, for 500 dollars. And have thought about buying it. But I am still unsure whether I should buy it. First I want to try other things.
I have started to think about learning other types of trading types, such as futures, options or forex. They may have different pros and cons. And maybe better data (for free).
So the aim of this post is to know which trading would you recommend and/or what are the pros and cons from each.
Which one can give the highest returns with algos?
Which one has more free data available? For example: the data by minute, or the bid ask. (forex maybe?)
Which one would I have not to worry so much about the bid ask spread? Small bid ask
Which one has more data? I will assume stocks, since forex does not have that many exchanges compared to the number of stocks.
And more important, which one do you recommend from personal use?
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Forex vs futures

Whilst acknowledging that since many FX brokers are market makers themselves and the product is not necessarily exchange traded, what would be better for a newbie to test/deploy algos on. From what I understand, some retail algo traders completely avoid FX.
However, with FX, due to small capital requirements you may be able to deploy hundreds or even thousands of strategies (small lot size) whereas $50k or so may not get you that much diversification on futures (although of course futures pricing is far more transparent)
Thanks
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Forex vs futures

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Forex vs. Futures. Questions...

I'm thirsty to learn a new technical skill and trading is right up my alley.
However, I'm doing my due dilligance and will be paper trading for a long time while I study, practice and educate myself.
However the biggest question ultimately will be "What will I trade?" And I've narrowed it to E Mini S%P Futures or Forex.
The attraction to both is a) Smaller capital requirements, meaning I can persue this as a hobby and keep the bankroll still at a 'fun' level (5k or so to start I'm expecting) b) Simplified analysis - what I mean by this is I don't want to be hunting for stocks, or companies and doing hours and hours of research and homework every morning and at night.
I'm an obsessive guy and I'll 100% be the guy who can't put his ipad or laptop down because I'm still reading the latest business news.
Going with Forex I can choose one single pair and just become an expert of it. Futures is the same thing in that the S&P is one chart. That's it. Simple.
The time wasted hunting down company stock to swap can be used on working on a strong trading strategy, or refining my risk management technique.
However, between the two I'm having a much harder time figuring out where to go with this.
For the time being I'm relegated to web based platforms, so I'm likely going to try Oanda first since their web client is clean and quick. They offer all the big currency pairs, as well as the S&P E-Minis Futures board.
If I went with Forex, the currency pairs of most interest are either EUUSD or USD/CAD.
I'm not sure which way to go. Any tips or insight?
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Forex vs Futures

i am curious if anyone has an opinion about wether to trade the forex or the futures market?
i have recently on a number of occasions heard from other forex traders that they prefer the futures market. that the price action should be more clean has been the argument. still i assume that most traders in this sub trade the forex market...?
two links below presenting pros and cons of the two markets. both have a bias though and try to sell one over the other.
pro forex: http://www.babypips.com/school/preschool/why-trade-forex/forex-vs-futures.html
pro futures: http://apexfutures.com/trading-tools/education/advantage-of-trading-futures/
i am too much of a beginner to give a final assessment but the articles definitely contradict each other. both claim that one market over provides better liquidity and reduced costs.
i am curious to learn more so would be happy to hear about your thoughts and experience on the futures market. myself i am a beginner trader on demo in forex market.
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Scalping: Futures vs Forex

I'm curious if anyone here has endeavored in scalping at both markets and what are your thoughts in the whole thing.
If your strategy is based on price action and/or DOM, and you only stay in the trade for a few minutes, then in theory all you should care about is liquidity and commissions.
Wondering how things really are in practice.
 
Disclaimer: so far I have only scalped options. But I'm thinking on moving to either futures or forex. The reason being liquidity.
I recently opened a forex account, although it's still unfunded. However, being in the EU and all, I don't know how easy, or if possible, is to open an account with those fancy futures brokers.
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What are the disadvantages of futures vs spot forex?

I've been trading spot forex for a while, and have been looking to move to futures. From everything i've gathered, there arn't many cons to trading futures vs forex. I'm wondering if there are things i'm overlooking or not considering? I was thinking of using data from forex (since its the bigger market and i get higher resolution on price), and trading with futures. My primary reason is because spreads are so high on the spot forex market for trading its difficult to take lower timeframe scalp trades while managing risk.
Edit: may have found something, how bad is slippage?
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Former investment bank FX trader: Risk management part 3/3

Former investment bank FX trader: Risk management part 3/3
Welcome to the third and final part of this chapter.
Thank you all for the 100s of comments and upvotes - maybe this post will take us above 1,000 for this topic!
Keep any feedback or questions coming in the replies below.
Before you read this note, please start with Part I and then Part II so it hangs together and makes sense.
Part III
  • Squeezes and other risks
  • Market positioning
  • Bet correlation
  • Crap trades, timeouts and monthly limits

Squeezes and other risks

We are going to cover three common risks that traders face: events; squeezes, asymmetric bets.

Events

Economic releases can cause large short-term volatility. The most famous is Non Farm Payrolls, which is the most widely watched measure of US employment levels and affects the price of many instruments.On an NFP announcement currencies like EURUSD might jump (or drop) 100 pips no problem.
This is fine and there are trading strategies that one may employ around this but the key thing is to be aware of these releases.You can find economic calendars all over the internet - including on this site - and you need only check if there are any major releases each day or week.
For example, if you are trading off some intraday chart and scalping a few pips here and there it would be highly sensible to go into a known data release flat as it is pure coin-toss and not the reason for your trading. It only takes five minutes each day to plan for the day ahead so do not get caught out by this. Many retail traders get stopped out on such events when price volatility is at its peak.

Squeezes

Short squeezes bring a lot of danger and perhaps some opportunity.
The story of VW and Porsche is the best short squeeze ever. Throughout these articles we've used FX examples wherever possible but in this one instance the concept (which is also highly relevant in FX) is best illustrated with an historical lesson from a different asset class.
A short squeeze is when a participant ends up in a short position they are forced to cover. Especially when the rest of the market knows that this participant can be bullied into stopping out at terrible levels, provided the market can briefly drive the price into their pain zone.

There's a reason for the car, don't worry
Hedge funds had been shorting VW stock. However the amount of VW stock available to buy in the open market was actually quite limited. The local government owned a chunk and Porsche itself had bought and locked away around 30%. Neither of these would sell to the hedge-funds so a good amount of the stock was un-buyable at any price.
If you sell or short a stock you must be prepared to buy it back to go flat at some point.
To cut a long story short, Porsche bought a lot of call options on VW stock. These options gave them the right to purchase VW stock from banks at slightly above market price.
Eventually the banks who had sold these options realised there was no VW stock to go out and buy since the German government wouldn’t sell its allocation and Porsche wouldn’t either. If Porsche called in the options the banks were in trouble.
Porsche called in the options which forced the shorts to buy stock - at whatever price they could get it.
The price squeezed higher as those that were short got massively squeezed and stopped out. For one brief moment in 2008, VW was the world’s most valuable company. Shorts were burned hard.

Incredible event
Porsche apparently made $11.5 billion on the trade. The BBC described Porsche as “a hedge fund with a carmaker attached.”
If this all seems exotic then know that the same thing happens in FX all the time. If everyone in the market is talking about a key level in EURUSD being 1.2050 then you can bet the market will try to push through 1.2050 just to take out any short stops at that level. Whether it then rallies higher or fails and trades back lower is a different matter entirely.
This brings us on to the matter of crowded trades. We will look at positioning in more detail in the next section. Crowded trades are dangerous for PNL. If everyone believes EURUSD is going down and has already sold EURUSD then you run the risk of a short squeeze.
For additional selling to take place you need a very good reason for people to add to their position whereas a move in the other direction could force mass buying to cover their shorts.
A trading mentor when I worked at the investment bank once advised me:
Always think about which move would cause the maximum people the maximum pain. That move is precisely what you should be watching out for at all times.

Asymmetric losses

Also known as picking up pennies in front of a steamroller. This risk has caught out many a retail trader. Sometimes it is referred to as a "negative skew" strategy.
Ideally what you are looking for is asymmetric risk trade set-ups: that is where the downside is clearly defined and smaller than the upside. What you want to avoid is the opposite.
A famous example of this going wrong was the Swiss National Bank de-peg in 2012.
The Swiss National Bank had said they would defend the price of EURCHF so that it did not go below 1.2. Many people believed it could never go below 1.2 due to this. Many retail traders therefore opted for a strategy that some describe as ‘picking up pennies in front of a steam-roller’.
They would would buy EURCHF above the peg level and hope for a tiny rally of several pips before selling them back and keep doing this repeatedly. Often they were highly leveraged at 100:1 so that they could amplify the profit of the tiny 5-10 pip rally.
Then this happened.

Something that changed FX markets forever
The SNB suddenly did the unthinkable. They stopped defending the price. CHF jumped and so EURCHF (the number of CHF per 1 EUR) dropped to new lows very fast. Clearly, this trade had horrific risk : reward asymmetry: you risked 30% to make 0.05%.
Other strategies like naively selling options have the same result. You win a small amount of money each day and then spectacularly blow up at some point down the line.

Market positioning

We have talked about short squeezes. But how do you know what the market position is? And should you care?
Let’s start with the first. You should definitely care.
Let’s imagine the entire market is exceptionally long EURUSD and positioning reaches extreme levels. This makes EURUSD very vulnerable.
To keep the price going higher EURUSD needs to attract fresh buy orders. If everyone is already long and has no room to add, what can incentivise people to keep buying? The news flow might be good. They may believe EURUSD goes higher. But they have already bought and have their maximum position on.
On the flip side, if there’s an unexpected event and EURUSD gaps lower you will have the entire market trying to exit the position at the same time. Like a herd of cows running through a single doorway. Messy.
We are going to look at this in more detail in a later chapter, where we discuss ‘carry’ trades. For now this TRYJPY chart might provide some idea of what a rush to the exits of a crowded position looks like.

A carry t